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A paper mache canoe.

#1 2005-03-29 06:41:34

ChristianNinja
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A paper mache canoe.

I want to make a full sized, fully usable, paper mache canoe.  It MUST be possible.  Opinions?

Thinking im going to have to use a sturdy frame.  I wish i didnt.


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#2 2005-03-29 10:35:13

dopapier
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Re: A paper mache canoe.

I agree, it should be possible, though waterproofing would be critical.  Melf has mentioned furniture and soaking in boiled linseed oil and baking it.  He might know about its waterproofing qualities.
Meanwhile there is a bit under the subject 'Kayaks in the sky' that might be worth a look.
lol
David


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#3 2005-03-29 19:16:35

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Re: A paper mache canoe.

hmm frankly i dont think linseed oil will cut it..youll need some heavy duty sealant for this kind of job...


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#4 2005-04-04 00:06:45

Shilbo
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Re: A paper mache canoe.

Hi,

Not sure about a papier mache canoe, but I'm building a radio controlled narrowboat (about 5 foot long) and apart from radio, batteries, propshaft, motor and rudder, it's made entirely out of papier mache.

Tried it in water (it just fits in the bath) and gave it a good soak test. Absolutely 100% waterproof with no leaks.

The hull is constructed from corrugated cardboard, soaked and shaped to make curves. On top of the cardboard, both inside and out, is a layer of papier mache made with newspaper and PVA glue (75% PVA 25% water). Once hardened, it has a layer of PVA painted on it, followed by car body primer (primer filler, which is like primer paint, but a little thicker). On top of that, is a good coat of car paint. Imperfections are then filled in with either something called "hard stopper" or car bumper filler (which is a little more flexible than car body filler). Amounts of filler are very small.

The waterproofing so far, is only a rough attempt, to get me through the dunk test, but as I say, it held up well.

The boat is taking shape nicely, and now has a preliminary superstructure (a shaped cardboard cabin, but no papier mache on it so far). The hull is about 75% complete. Next step is to power up the motors, and see how it hangs together.

I've made a number of radio controlled models in the past, of various kinds, and was stuck for an idea of what to make next. My father, jokingly, said make a paper boat, so I set myself the challenge to make a 100% paper R/C boat.

If you want to have a look at any other models, then feel free to visit www.shilbo.com.

Any questions on the narrowboat, or indeed on anything else, then there's a contact page on the website. Feel free to drop me aline.

Chris

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#5 2005-04-04 19:58:13

Shilbo
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Re: A paper mache canoe.

My apologies. Because I put a "." at the end of www.shilbo.com then if you click on the link in my previous posting it cannot find the suffix ".com." Try the link in this posting : www.shilbo.com

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#6 2005-05-22 17:47:52

Jackie
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Re: A paper mache canoe.

We can now follow Chris's progress with his papier mache narrowboat on this site. This can be found at: http://www.papiermache.co.uk/exec/cms-d … iew/id-45/

Good luck Chris and we are all looking forward to seeing the finished boat.


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#7 2005-08-27 23:54:22

Jackie
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Re: A paper mache canoe.

Chris really has his work cut out making a papier mache narrowboat. Catch up with the latest developments: http://www.papiermache.co.uk/exec/cms-d … iew/id-45/


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#8 2005-09-11 03:12:27

Shuffle
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Re: A paper mache canoe.

Heavy-duty varnish?

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#9 2006-05-26 14:06:15

Shilbo
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Re: A paper mache canoe.

Hi guys,

Just to let you know that the radio controlled papier mache narrowboat is now finished. Her maiden voyage (on the local boating lake) was a real success!

The forum has been updated with photographs, and the full story. http://www.papiermache.co.uk/exec/cms-d … iew/id-45/

Chris

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#10 2006-05-26 16:51:51

Jackie
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Re: A paper mache canoe.

The boat is magnificent and it just goes to show what you can do with papier mache.

It was lovely to see "Papillion" launched - it was worth the (long) wait! lol


Jackie

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#11 2006-06-25 14:25:55

Laughing Mozzie
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Re: A paper mache canoe.

What if a builder used epoxy resin inplace of PVA to build a paper canoe?

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#12 2006-09-04 09:21:11

don g
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Re: A paper mache canoe.

I have just about finished a paper mache canoe I have bought epoxy to coat the outside. I did test it before just to make sure the design was what I wanted. I varnished it with marine varnish and it held up okay and didn't leak. the marine varnish would probobly work but I want something more so I am going to use the epoxy when I am finished. however every one I know that doesn't know anything about building boats tells me that I am crazy and it wont work no matter how I do it. the people that have built boats or at least know something about it say it sounds good and it should work.

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#13 2006-10-12 01:32:31

Shilbo
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Re: A paper mache canoe.

Good luck with the canoe. How flexible is the structure? Is the epoxy resin going to flex? Better to flex than to crack, of course.

The papier mache narrowboat is still going strong, and has paddled around the lake many times now. Still watertight! :-)

Chris

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