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Can you papier-mache over spackle?

#1 2007-04-11 02:03:21

butterbee
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From: Ontario, Canada
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Can you papier-mache over spackle?

paperartist reminded me about the book 'Papier-Mache Artistry' by Dona Z. Meilach. (Which is a completely amazing book, by the way.)

I got the book from my local library so I could look at some of Gemma Taccogna's older work again and was surprised to see in a caption under one of the photos that even after the piece is sealed you can add additional paper to revise the shape. It never occurred to me before that I could fix big indentations that were there even after I spackled with putting more paper over top.

From what I read I assume that Gemma used gesso, which I know is mostly glue. So my question is: Do you think that you could put more papier-mache on top of spackle as well, or do you think it will affect the plaster and it can only be done over gesso?

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#2 2007-04-11 05:51:11

CatPerson
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Re: Can you papier-mache over spackle?

I don't think plaster is known for being waterproof.

Try this: prepare a small lump of Spackle, then let it dry/cure. Then immerse it in a small bowl of water. Does the lump get soft, gooey, or slimy? Does the water get cloudy? None of these are good signs. If it looks/acts stable, go for it.

Otherwise, if you seal the Spackle, then apply more PM over the sealer, it may work.

Sue

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#3 2007-06-20 01:53:20

paperartist
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Re: Can you papier-mache over spackle?

Hi CatPerson,
Spackle and plaster are two different things, right?

I don't see why you couldn't add more PM on top. Paper is lighter weight than spackle and plaster or gesso.

Yeah, Gemma did use Gesso. We found a thick gesso that was great. It is a Liquitex product. We couldn't see anything on the label that indicated it was thick. It comes in a jar.

One student (Elena) managed to get the beautiful finish Gemma got. I asked her, too, but there is no secret, just a lot of elbow grease. I still have several pieces made with Gemma that I gave up on; at least for now.

PaperArtist

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